tnx but
من وطن پرست نيستم، حتي خودم رو وطن دوست هم نميدونم
اما دليلي هم نميبينم كه اسم خليجي رو كه هميشه فارس بوده عوض كنن بذارن عرب به اين علت كه اونجا بيشتر مردمش عرب هستند.
اگه آدم بخواد اينو قبول كنه، خيلي اسم ها روو نقشه ي جهان بايد عوض بشه…
به نظرم تا وقتي كه همه ي اسم هاي اينطوري قرار نيست عوض بشن، ديگه همچين بحثي جنبه ي حقوقي نداره و همش سياسيه و ريشه توو ضدمردمي بودن نظام ايران داره.
يه جمله ئي تو يه فيلمي از كوبريك هست به اين مضمون:
وطن پرستي آخرين پناهگاه يك خبيث است.
با چندتا تبصره خيلي قبولش دارم.
حرف کوبریک را در مورد “نوعی” وطن پرستی قبول دارم و به نظر من مغایرتی هم با دوست داشتن سرزمین خودمان ندارد.
اسم هرجایی تاریخ و علتی دارد که تغییر آن بنا به مصلحت روز و وقت و ساعت به قول شما “ضد مردمی” است. قضیه خلیج فارس هم به نظر می آید که جزو معدود مورادی است که تمام ایرانی ها در آن هم عقیده هستند.
ممنون از سرزدن
I feel much the same way you do Homeyra. And I feel a great level of bullying being thrust to bring about this situation.
But I also find our fellow Iranians to blame.
Only when we see the “Persian Gulf” down as a different name, or, Rumi’s poetry being given to an American first lady by her Turkish counterpart … do we cry foul.
The rest of the time, we’re pretty much stuck in our caves.
Great Naj, will make a post about your project. I am not a great cook, remember?
Thanks for your comment Pedestrian, there is also a wikipage about the “dispute”, although I won’t call that a “dispute”, rather a “mischief”!
I’ve read the page! and I hate that name: “dispute”. A dispute is an argument with two (often times legitimate) sides … I really don’t see why there’s two narratives to this.
I was watching BBC’s brilliant earth documentary (Have you seen
Planet Earth ? WOW!!! Brilliant!) and they too refer to the Persian Gulf as the “Arabian Gulf” …
In many ways, it is worst than Google because this is a documentary that has sold out quite a few times on Amazon and has been watched by millions of people … It is entertainment and thus much more avidly followed.
I don’t know if you are in the business of complaining, but in case you are, you can do so here.
That’s the history one learns, I realize that history is open to interpretation (to their credit, “Einstein”s over here didn’t go that far!)
In the current context, there is some malice in the presentation, and yes we our touchy!
Historically there is a grudge about the Arab invaders, which takes (to our discredit) sometimes a very primitive expression.
Okay. But, I’m sorry, I’m going to have to insist all Persians comport themselves perfectly from here until further notice. I know it’s a tall order, but, when battling the forces of stupidity and evil, them’s the breaks….
tnx but
من وطن پرست نيستم، حتي خودم رو وطن دوست هم نميدونم
اما دليلي هم نميبينم كه اسم خليجي رو كه هميشه فارس بوده عوض كنن بذارن عرب به اين علت كه اونجا بيشتر مردمش عرب هستند.
اگه آدم بخواد اينو قبول كنه، خيلي اسم ها روو نقشه ي جهان بايد عوض بشه…
به نظرم تا وقتي كه همه ي اسم هاي اينطوري قرار نيست عوض بشن، ديگه همچين بحثي جنبه ي حقوقي نداره و همش سياسيه و ريشه توو ضدمردمي بودن نظام ايران داره.
يه جمله ئي تو يه فيلمي از كوبريك هست به اين مضمون:
وطن پرستي آخرين پناهگاه يك خبيث است.
با چندتا تبصره خيلي قبولش دارم.
(بازم بي ربط حرفيدم)
حرف کوبریک را در مورد “نوعی” وطن پرستی قبول دارم و به نظر من مغایرتی هم با دوست داشتن سرزمین خودمان ندارد.
اسم هرجایی تاریخ و علتی دارد که تغییر آن بنا به مصلحت روز و وقت و ساعت به قول شما “ضد مردمی” است. قضیه خلیج فارس هم به نظر می آید که جزو معدود مورادی است که تمام ایرانی ها در آن هم عقیده هستند.
ممنون از سرزدن
I feel much the same way you do Homeyra. And I feel a great level of bullying being thrust to bring about this situation.
But I also find our fellow Iranians to blame.
Only when we see the “Persian Gulf” down as a different name, or, Rumi’s poetry being given to an American first lady by her Turkish counterpart … do we cry foul.
The rest of the time, we’re pretty much stuck in our caves.
Hi there,
I have a little food project happening at my blog. Care to drop in some obscure Persian recipe?
Great Naj, will make a post about your project. I am not a great cook, remember?
Thanks for your comment Pedestrian, there is also a wikipage about the “dispute”, although I won’t call that a “dispute”, rather a “mischief”!
I’ve read the page! and I hate that name: “dispute”. A dispute is an argument with two (often times legitimate) sides … I really don’t see why there’s two narratives to this.
Yeeesss yesyesyes you were not a good cook; but maybe your brother can help
Alibaba! are you around?
You can’t actually have a brother named Alibaba!
Y’r right 99
…. but the 40 thieves of Baghdad part came true!
I was watching BBC’s brilliant earth documentary (Have you seen
Planet Earth ? WOW!!! Brilliant!) and they too refer to the Persian Gulf as the “Arabian Gulf” …
In many ways, it is worst than Google because this is a documentary that has sold out quite a few times on Amazon and has been watched by millions of people … It is entertainment and thus much more avidly followed.
I don’t know if you are in the business of complaining, but in case you are, you can do so here.
I haven’t seen it. Will bookmark it.
The second link is broken. Can you post it again? Thanks.
Do you have something against Arabs, or something against the nomenclature of antiquity, or just touchy, or whut?
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In the current context, there is some malice in the presentation, and yes we our touchy!
Historically there is a grudge about the Arab invaders, which takes (to our discredit) sometimes a very primitive expression.
Okay. But, I’m sorry, I’m going to have to insist all Persians comport themselves perfectly from here until further notice. I know it’s a tall order, but, when battling the forces of stupidity and evil, them’s the breaks….
Carry on.