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What’s wrong with her?

Posted in Iran by homeyra on June 3, 2008

Whatever was wrong with her previous article, is still wrong with her latest:
Stars (and Stripes) in their eyes. Another Irani Online explains.

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The Magic Carpet by Pedestrian

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  1. 99 said, on June 3, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Oh, good, sanctions are having the desired effect…. The Iranian people will be pleased to have regime change… will greet us with flowers… and immediately flock to McDonald’s and Burger King.

    Sheesh. I’m not an economist but I can’t see how Ahmadinejad can be held responsible for economic problems when sanctions have to be messing with everything and that can’t really be in his control, can it? And is it really only the government and a few hard liners who care about Palestine?

    The one thing that made me really mad in this latest piece was the part about the lopsided distribution of oil wealth. IS THAT TRUE?

    I swear, sometimes I wish for space alien overlords to supplant all rotten world leaders.

    I do. 😦

  2. naj said, on June 3, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Well, I think this woman can use some editorial help to express herself in a more nuanced way. she can also use some enlightened friends who would take her beyond the small circle within which she seems to roam. But, her observations, within her limited sphere are not false.

    Americans hear the voices of the upper middle class in Iran, a minority who are somewhat disconnected, and always disgruntled, yet the only once who have access to “foreign” communication. Iranians, indoctrinated with Western mentality, trying to decipher their country for the Western mind … well they turn into Moaveni’s and Azar Nafisi’s.

  3. homeyra said, on June 3, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    99, I would say that the present economic problems are older than sanctions or the current leader. From the early days of the revolution belonging to the clan was more important than actual expertise and the downside of this choice has been considered acceptable. Most people are involved in their daily lives and do not care much about anywhere else.
    I agree Naj, I don’t think that she has a peculiar agenda like the likes of Taheri, and maybe she is reporting candidly what she sees around her. Not good enough.

  4. Pedestrian said, on June 3, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Homeyra, I hated, hated, hated Lipstick Jihad.

    It made me feel anger, betrayal, revolt …

    And not because I thought she was lying. I had sat with the people she was describing, I had spoken to them, ate with them, attended gatherings with them.

    She was genuinely describing what she saw.

    Then claiming the entirety of Iran was to be seen through her tiny, minuscule lens. Not only that, but peresent in this book and in almost all her articles: arrogance. As if she is constantly “othering” the people she is writing about. Standing a side and looking down whilst she describes them.

    “By and large, the books Iranians seemed to be reading did not lend themselves to discussion, except with a therapist.”

    I find statements like that arrogant and super snotty … with which her articles are filled.

    I don’t think she was lying but I don’t understand what the big deal is about her. Why is she such a big deal?! And did the Times have nobody better to put in Tehran?

    I think discourse like that – well, too much of it, because as Naj points out this is the only kind that gets wired to New York and L.A. – actually works to be more destructive.

    Go to any bookstore here and out of the 10 books they have on Iran, 8 of them will carry this particular world view. These are the only books on Iran that seem to be published these days. Even people who care enough to pick up one of these books will go to their graves thinking that this is Iran.

    Have you read Christopher de Bellaigue “In the Rose Garden of the Martyrs” ?

  5. homeyra said, on June 3, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Most of these books bore me. I liked the idea of Lipstick as it showed something else than the usual image, but I understand your frustration. I haven’t read the Bellaigue, but I saw articles and interviews when it was published.
    The “Turban et la rose” is more interesting, the writer knows about travelers of previous centuries and I learned many things. His French-diplomat version of the current nuclear issue – brings new (to me at least) aspects to the debate.

  6. 99 said, on June 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    And did the Times have nobody better to put in Tehran?

    Well, from the look of the Washington Post piece, I’d say she fit their criteria to a tee. That piece was an outright declaration that the * administration should go liberate Iran.

    It made me mad.

    As you know, I actually admire President Ahmadinejad for what I feel are extremely courageous positions on vital matters. I’m bugged by her assertion that he is making it easier/better/more for an elite and leaving the rest of Iranian society out. I haven’t the first part of a clue if there is any merit to that, and it’s grating on my nerves to be MADE so ignorant about that!

  7. 99 said, on June 3, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Dang, Homie. I didn’t close my italics tag after “Washington Post” above. Sorry. I don’t suppose you’d consider fixing it so I don’t look so hopeless? 😛

  8. homeyra said, on June 3, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Corrected! You can see my opinion a few comments above.

  9. 99 said, on June 4, 2008 at 4:32 am

    Wow. It’s pretty crazy here tonight, with Obama finally able to claim the Democratic nomination. McWarmonger bombed badly in a speech tonight and the country is on fire for Obama. I find I can’t stand the hoping….

  10. homeyra said, on June 4, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Just read your post 99.


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